TG50 or NX70V?

[tantousha]

Well...this answer may seem obvious at first but I want you to stop and think for a second.

With the NX70Vs going for the same price as a TG50 over at overstock.com, which would you recommend?

The NX70 has the camera, big screen and CF slot going for it, whereas the TG50 has bluetooth, smaller package, better keyboard and some newer software tweaks.

I've handled both and pocketed the TG50 and I must say it's definitly a nice PDA. But I can think of 1000s of uses for the camera but only 100s of uses for the bluetooth....

So what's your train of thought guys?
TG50 or NX70V?

[jwang0416]

seems like u have made a decision urself already?!
1000 reasons for NX...go for NX70 then.......

[tantousha]

Originally posted by jwang0416
seems like u have made a decision urself already?!
1000 reasons for NX...go for NX70 then.......

I have and I haven't. While I would find the camera useful I'm not sure I can justify the extra size. This PDA is going to strictly be a pocketable PDA and it's going to share my pocket with my wallet (at least until I get a nice Vaja case, but even then I don't want to part with my handmade leather wallet I bought in Florence :D) Anyways. So yeah, the size of the TG50 is a BIG plus, and if I invest the small amount in a bluetooth dongle the TG50 becomes an even bigger plus...I'm like stuck right in the middle.

[jwang0416]

well...for me i chose to buy TG50 at my very first eye look....
just love the device.....the size, the look and the features (NX is way too big for me and i dont need a 310,000 digi since i got a 2 mega pixcel one ).

u have to u know what u want. If u really need a digi cam i think it would be useful to get one with built-in camera then. i have to say playing with the built-in camera is really "FUN" on clie ~

[tiwee]

Originally posted by jwang0416
well...for me i chose to buy TG50 at my very first eye look....
just love the device.....the size, the look and the features (NX is way too big for me and i dont need a 310,000 digi since i got a 2 mega pixcel one ).

u have to u know what u want. If u really need a digi cam i think it would be useful to get one with built-in camera then. i have to say playing with the built-in camera is really "FUN" on clie ~

jwang actually pointed out the word "playing" which I think it is true. Although you may have 1000s of ways of using the camera. It does not mean you will use it everyday! Most likely you will take picture for fun and .... that's it! When you transferred out the picture you have taken from the clie, the picture is pixelated and you cannot view it anywhere except your clie or unless you are going to print thumbnails!

I actually chose to buy TG50 at the very sight and the very day it launches! I have been using the bluetooth everyday for SMS although it is just a small part in bluetooth but at least I appreciate the in built bluetooth every single day! I have no problem with HI-RES despite NX having HI-RES+, it is sufficient for me.

Cheers! :p

[s_n_m]

I find 320x320 resolution the perfect size, and since I mostly use the TG for simple stuff I didn't have much of a use for the LITTLE features the NX has.

Plus, I LOVE BLUETOOTH! It's cheap and every new cell phone has it!

[ErnieB]

TG-50, hands down.  Form factor, size, weight, etc., are all better.  VG and HiRes+ are cool, but that's all they are.

[T1000X]

I tried the TG50 out for a while (about two weeks), and enjoyed the device but there were some factors that helped me change my mind and move to the NX70V.

If you are focused on having multimedia capabilities let me highlight some of the things I didn't like about the TG50. Watching movies with a maximum size of 320*240 is okay, but if you want to avoid eye strain it isn't the best choice. When it comes to MP3 playback if you want to listen to music and not bother about changing tracks then the TG50 would work. If you are like me and would like to skip tracks, adjust volume or stop playback entirely (with the device on Hold and screen off), then the NX70V with it's inline remote would be best. Another cool thing about the inline remote is there are programs that allow you to map the buttons to do launch other programs. Unfortunately, I cannot recall the names of some of those programs.

One of the biggest benefits of having the NX70V is it's awesome 320*480 screen. It really pays off if you are a big eBook reader or have to view and edit a lot of information. I can view an entire days worth of appointments in the Datebook, several ToDos, and almost an entire page of text in Memo Pad on my NX70V versus having to scroll with a 320*320 screen in all applications mentioned. The cool thing about the NX70V is if you have Graffiti Anywhere, NewPen, or Jot you do not need the Graffiti area open in order to input data!

As for the camera on the NX70V, it's a cool idea but the lack of a flash limits it's usability. You cannot take pictures really in anything short of bright (meaning outside) light. One cool (and mostly novel) thing you can do is capture small low quality movies. I've used it a couple of times to record my two year old nephew, and it's cool. It's nice having it there, but the quality of the pictures is nothing special. I'd probably use the camera more if it had better resolution (at least 1MP or better), a flash, and didn't compromise the size of the device much.

Both devices have voice recording capabilities, but the TG50's seems to be an updated version with a really nice sensitivity setting. The TG50 has an easier time when in sensitive mode picking up finer sounds.

As for other applications with each device, the TG50 comes with Piscel Viewer that allows you to natively view files without conversion. It is really cool, but all you can do is view, not edit. Unlike the NX though, the TG50 does not officially come with Documents to Go either, which is my preferred Office program.

As for the wireless communication aspect you have two different standards that cover two different areas. Bluetooth (BT) is best suited for PANs or Personal Area Networks. That is essentially for things like a BT headset and BT phone, a BT equipped PDA and BT cell phone, BT cameras and BT PDAs, BT cameras and BT hard drives and a BT hard drive and BT PDA (we can wish, can't we), and other personal items. Bluetooth is also limiting in range as well with a normal range of 30 feet.

WiFi (802.11b) is meant for LANs and is meant to be a wireless version of Ethernet. Because of the broader range, WiFi radios in devices require more power. If you want to be able to HotSync faster then USB, move 300 feet away and get online, then a WiFi capable PDA would be a better choice.

It all matters what you plan on using the device for. If you want a multimedia WiFi machine the NX70V is the superior choice. If all you need is a productivity tool to use with your Bluetooth enabled cell phone then I'd choose the TG50.

[sstrasser86]

yeah i totaly agree with you

[swinter]

of course it all depends on how you plan to use your unit. if I were buying now, personally, i'd opt for the TG50. i use my clie to replace the laptop (i.e., word processing, checking and writing email, taking notes in meetings, web surfing when i'm away from my desk). for me, the Sony fold-up keyboard is an essential accessory -- and it  does not work with the NX or NZ. also, i use the bluetooth memory stick all-the-time to connect to my cellphone to go online and it would be much more convenient to have bluetooth built in (and not have to take the regular memory stick out each time). finally, though i don't take pictures much, i strongly prefer higher quality pics so I can post them on my website etc. (i use a 1.3 MB Sony camcorder with memory stick; i can view the digital photos on the T series unit, on my Sony TV, or -- of course -- on the computer.)

on the side of the NX, there's that wonderful 320 x 480 screen. we T series owners covet that, no doubt about it. (Sony are you listening?)

another thing to consider is that there other ways you can duplicate the convenience of the NX's camera. Sony has a memory stick camera for the T series. and both Nokia and Sony Ericsson either have or will soon have bluetooth enabled phones with built in cameras.

[tantousha]

Hmmm....all such good points...I think I'm going to have to buy both :P

I love the Keyboards...as I currently have a Treo 90 and going with the TG50 seems like a natural step.

As for the multimedia capabilities, the one I know I would use on a regular basis would be the MP3 playback. You are right about the inline remote, I never even thought about how to change tracks I would have to take the Clie out of my pocket, flip open the cover and turn the unit on, a lotta work for something small. But then I could just make sure that the playlist I use contains only the music I want....argh!

Size is another big thing, though I haven't really done a side by side, I do know the TG50 is smaller...I'm just not sure how much.

Oh and on a side note, Vaja said they currently don't plan to make a case for the TG50 :( I sure hope this is temporary.

[jwrogers]

I've had both, and I gave the NX70V to my wife. I use the TG50 now because it's MUCH more pocketable. The NX70V is just so large that it doesn't fit well in a pocket. I realized that I was carrying it everywhere I needed to-- when someone said "hey, let's go to lunch" I'd leave the NX70V behind because it was so bulky.

Both are fantastic devices, though, and my wife is going to get great use out of the camera on the NX70V.

[yOyOYoo]

To me, the NX70v, seems much more of an entertainment device, while the TG50 seems much more of a better business tool. When upgrading from my NR70v, I was in a similar situation as you.

The TG50 just seems like a much more user friendly and functional device to me, than the NR70v (and subsequent NX70v) would ever be. I constantly check the time and datebook on my palm, and for me it was such a huge pain in the butt to have to take out my NR70v, then open the huge clamshell just to look at the time, and then close it. I loved using the thumbboard of the NR70v, but in low light situations, the thumbboard was rendered useless. While having a hi-res+ screen was very nice (at the time I swore I would never go without hi-res+ again) I found the NR70v too awkward and clumsy to use efficiently. Tablet mode is nice when I want to write in graffiti, but what if I need a hardbutton to look up a task, pagedown hack was a nice alterative, but I just found it really annoying, having to constantly switch btween clamshell and tablet mode. I just want to be able to whip out my palm, then jot a quick note, then close it, without having to go through the trouble of changing configurations constantly.

Other reasons for me not wanting another clamshell were: the hinge on my NR70v degraded to crap. It was constantly loose, requiring me to open the unit up and tighten the screws constantly. While the camera was "fun" I never had any real use for it. I hear NX70v users complain about the hinge breaking down as well. For me I don't want to have to worry about or deal with my unit breaking or the hinge getting loose. I shudder at the thought of having to deal with a bad hinge on a clamshell again.

The TG50 is very quick to use. The home/menu buttons are a great idea and I feel should be implemented into every new sony CLIE. they make things so much easier, involving less use of the stylus. With flexbutton, I can map the FIND button to open up any program I want. I love the backlit keyboard. I can actually type in the dark with no problems at all. On my NR70v, with heavy use, I found the thin membrane covering the keyboard got really dirty and seemed uncleanable. The TG50 uses a much better keyboard that does'nt look like its prone to getting dirty.

I actually found that I don't miss the hi-res+ screen at all. Who wants to subject their eyes to the eyestrain of an entire movie on a palm pilot anyways? The TG50 is a much more efficient and easier to use device than the NX70v, in my opinion.

in response to the CF slot, I hear that it is only compatible with third party programs, and developers are having a difficult time getting the CF slot to work with sony's proprietery software, which includes Audioplayer. So basically to me it would be of no use, as I could care less about watching movies on my palm. and any memory stick will suffice for all of my programs run through powerrun with my memory stick (doesn't take up that much room for me)

I'm sorry for the really long post, i guess I just got caught up. Try both devices, and see which one YOU like best. For me, It was the TG50. If you do like the clamshell, hi-res+, and camera of the NX70v, may I suggest you wait for the new NX series rumored to come out at the end of next month? They'll probably have better hindge designs, better camera resolution, and back lit keyboard.

Goodluck - hope this helps.

[tubbycub]

I still that the NX70V is better than the TG50, at least for the eye-catching part. No doubt that its bulky but it still has the WOW factor. The camera provide opportunities for you to take pictures at the most unexpected moments....come on, would you be carrying a real camera with you all the time? Guess not, but you will be carrying a PDA, at least, most of the time.

I hate the NZ90 though, it is way too bulky. I'd rather spend a bit more to substitute that with one of those ultraportable Fujitsu notebooks.

[Sneezy]

The fact that the TG50 isn't quite as "flashy" can be a good thing. People were always wanting to touch my NR70V. It just became annoying. The TG50 still draws some attraction, but it's just not quite as Geeky (or Nerdly? I can't figure out which is the more proper term).

[yOyOYoo]

yeah well i'm a college student and it always made me feel uneasy carrying around my NR70v, especially using it in public. I hate to think what other people might be thinking... (look at that spoiled brat!) It was too flashy for me.

Sounds weird, but I actually felt uncomfortable or embarrassed to take it out sometimes. I am no showoff.

[Unregistered]

If you want your PDA to do primarily do all sorts of multimedia stuff, go for a Pocket PC. I like my Clie, first and foremost, for it's reliability and ease-of-use. Given that, I don't expect it to be able to do all sorts of multimedia stuff, but I'm more than happy to get some multimedia stuff in a small form factor.

I had a T615c that I was totally happy with. Then I had a choice between a NX60/70 or a TG50. Here's what I concluded:

1. I never had a 320x480 screen, so although it looked really nice, I didn't feel that I "had" to have it. Now if I did have the 320x480, it probably would be tough to go back to 320x320.

2. 320x320 is plenty of space for basic applications. Given, movie playing is a strain on your eyes, but how much better would 320x480 do in that case? I wouldn't be watching full blown movies on any handheld anyways.

3. Camera...ah, the camera. A nice toy, but at a relatively low resolution and without a flash or zoom, the pictures you take will not be worth keeping except on the Clie or as thumbnails. I have a 4 and a 5 megapixel digital camera, so I wouldn't come across too many situations where I'm need the camera on the NX70.

4. Size. The big (pun intended) issue. If you keep your Clie with you at all times like me, the difference in size between the NX and TG is very significant. I didn't think it was that big of a difference when I looked at the two models. But coming from the T615, I can even tell the difference now with the very slightly larger TG50. I can't imagine how I would carry around the NX in my pocket. The TG50 fits nicely in my pocket with my t68i.

5. Keyboard -- I didn't think I would like it at first. The buttons were stiff at first. But after using it for about two weeks now, I'm gotten pretty fast at entering stuff with the keyboard, and the buttons have softened up a bit. This coming from someone who's used Graffiti for the past four years.

Hopefully this helps you out in your decision. BTW, if you didn't read above, I ended up getting the TG50.

[ClieT615]

Ah, stupid settings...I really need to change them so it remembers that I'm logged it...

Anyways, that's my post above.

One thing I forgot to mention is the Bluetooth capability vs. WiFi. For me, if I'm in a WiFi area, I could usually find a desktop or, if I have it, my laptop. I like the Bluetooth because it will allow me to use my t68i as a modem and have a wireless connection anywhere.

[jwang0416]

Originally posted by yOyOYoo
yeah well i'm a college student and it always made me feel uneasy carrying around my NR70v, especially using it in public. I hate to think what other people might be thinking... (look at that spoiled brat!) It was too flashy for me.

Sounds weird, but I actually felt uncomfortable or embarrassed to take it out sometimes. I am no showoff.

i have the exactly same feeling as you Yoyo. Becasue, before i got my little TG, i think people are being showoff when they take out pda in class when they dont really need it during lecture.

so i am afraid i'll be the one who is showoff now. feel people starting at me is very uncomfertable....

[LockeEVP]

Originally posted by tantousha
Well...this answer may seem obvious at first but I want you to stop and think for a second.

With the NX70Vs going for the same price as a TG50 over at overstock.com, which would you recommend?

The NX70 has the camera, big screen and CF slot going for it, whereas the TG50 has bluetooth, smaller package, better keyboard and some newer software tweaks.

I've handled both and pocketed the TG50 and I must say it's definitly a nice PDA. But I can think of 1000s of uses for the camera but only 100s of uses for the bluetooth....

So what's your train of thought guys?
TG50 or NX70V?
I know exactaly what ur looking for. Okay guys don't flame me but... The PDA that will fill your needs is... An Ipaq 1910! It is smaller than the TG50 but fits all your needs exept the camera.

[tantousha]

Originally posted by LockeEVP

I know exactaly what ur looking for. Okay guys don't flame me but... The PDA that will fill your needs is... An Ipaq 1910! It is smaller than the TG50 but fits all your needs exept the camera.

Well...umm...no...sorry :D. My Dad has an Ipaq 3850 (my mom bought it for him but I was the one that chose it) and well...I liked my Treo 90 better. I mean sure PPC has many more multimedia features and is more powerful, but I felt that PPC 2002 itself was kinda draconian and slow. I compared it with my Treo 90 using Worldmate and Bejeweled and found that my 16Mhz Treo 90 smoked the 200Mhz Ipaq in both programs. I really don't like having to constantly go into the control panel just to close programs and Activesync maintains a constant connection with the computer (While this seems great, it causes problems when you reboot your computer.) The Palm OS just seems so much more streamlined and efficient.

Now, back to the world of Palms (I don't have anything against PPC and I think it fits the needs of many users, just not me :)). Some more wonderful points. The WOW factor is a big one I haven't really taken into account but it's true. I myself am also a college student (let's hear it for fellow college palm users!!) and whenever I pull out my Treo 90 in class to jot a date down or something I always have like six or seven people asking me if they can play with it, or how much it cost, or wanting to explain the features. It's fun the first couple of times but after the umpteenth time it becomes...well...shall we say tedious? I admit that having a clamshell and the camera wouldn't do much to help this.

As for the hinge, it's a good point that I fear a lot. Buying the NX70 from Overstock.com means that it only comes with a 90-day warranty from Sony. I don't want that hinge breaking on the 91st day of owning it...maybe if it was the standard warranty I would consider it, but well...at 90-days I think the hinge issue warrants :P me to give up on the NX. I

Overall I like it, but I like it as a toy and not as useful device. I think the TG50 wins in the end.

I must say though that I thought you guys were all going to say go for the toy if you can get it for so cheap. I guess this is what I get for posting in the TG50 forum though :D I wonder what would've happened if I posted this in the NX70 forum?

Alex.

*Edited by me...grammar :D*

[yOyOYoo]

yay congrats Alex! You will love your TG50!

[T1000X]

But you'd miss having a large screen on the NX70V. I could never use anything that didn't have a 320*480 or larger screen.

[tantousha]

Originally posted by yOyOYoo
yay congrats Alex! You will love your TG50!

I will love it, will being the operative word seeing as I still have to sell my Treo 90 and raise the couple hundred to cover the gap...unlike my past to PDAs my parents are refusing to help contribute to the 'Get Alex a TG50 Foundation'....they say that I go through a PDA every year and I should lay back a bit....yeah that's fine for them....but I couldn't live with the fact that my Treo 90 is obsolete...I'd kill myself first :p. Meh....yes I think it's pretty definite, TG50 it is!

[tantousha]

There, I know have the signature to prove my intentions! W00t! :D

[yOyOYoo]

By the time you save up enough money, sony will have come out with a whole slew of newer models to make deciding on which pda to get even more difficult!

"NX73 or TG55?" will be the title of your next post...hehe I can see it now

[tantousha]

Originally posted by yOyOYoo
By the time you save up enough money, sony will have come out with a whole slew of newer models to make deciding on which pda to get even more difficult!

"NX73 or TG55?" will be the title of your next post...hehe I can see it now

Well it all depends...As soon as I sell my Treo I'm pretty sure I can have the money...

[tantousha]

Well...thanx to s n m, I'm having second thoughts about going to the TG50...the whole lack of remote thing. I never realized it, but compared to my old Rio which had the controls on the front, having to flip up the lid and what not kinda seems like a mild pain. I don't know....help....

[T1000X]

I love the remote on my NX70V, and use it all the time to change tracks, volume, and to stop playback. It works great in my Mom's car with her tape deck with my cassette adapter. I can't use my cassette adapter in my truck because I only have a CD player.

[LockeEVP]

Originally posted by tantousha
Well...thanx to s n m, I'm having second thoughts about going to the TG50...the whole lack of remote thing. I never realized it, but compared to my old Rio which had the controls on the front, having to flip up the lid and what not kinda seems like a mild pain. I don't know....help....

I feel your pain. I have a NX70V and can't live without the remote. Fortunately, thier is a remote 4 the TG50 that plugs into the serial port available off sonystyle.com.
In my opinion the TG50 and NX70V are different kinds of PDA's. They appeal to different kinds of people, this is sony's strategy.

[swinter]

Originally posted by tantousha
Well...thanx to s n m, I'm having second thoughts about going to the TG50...the whole lack of remote thing. I never realized it, but compared to my old Rio which had the controls on the front, having to flip up the lid and what not kinda seems like a mild pain. I don't know....help....

.  .  . either you get the one with the remote -- in which case you have to flip the whole clamshell thing everytime you want to use the PDA. or, you get the TG50 and flip the lid everytime you want to change tracks on the mp3 program. I'd say it depends what you think you'll be using the CLIE for most: an mp3 player or a PDA?

[tantousha]

Originally posted by LockeEVP


I feel your pain. I have a NX70V and can't live without the remote. Fortunately, thier is a remote 4 the TG50 that plugs into the serial port available off sonystyle.com.
In my opinion the TG50 and NX70V are different kinds of PDA's. They appeal to different kinds of people, this is sony's strategy.

Well if they appeal to different people, than I'm stuck right in the middle. On the one hand I love the TG50s size, keyboard and price but on the other I love the multimedia capabilities of the NX...argh...time for some thinkin'

[LockeEVP]

Originally posted by tantousha


Well if they appeal to different people, than I'm stuck right in the middle. On the one hand I love the TG50s size, keyboard and price but on the other I love the multimedia capabilities of the NX...argh...time for some thinkin'

You have been diagnosed with "The Sony Syndrome" :D :p

[swinter]

Originally posted by LockeEVP


You have been diagnosed with "The Sony Syndrome" :D :p

 

Well, the really bad news is that it sounds like they are going to make an even larger NX with a better camera and faster processor -- but not a T series with virtual grafitti!

[tantousha]

Originally posted by LockeEVP


You have been diagnosed with "The Sony Syndrome" :D :p

Sony Syndrome you say? uh-oh...I think I got it from hanging around with you guys....darn....oh well....maybe I'll just have to buy BOTH of them :D

[zeltzer]

I can say that I switched from the NX70 to the TG50 and do not regreat it so far .

I did not have many uses for the camera (although better than NR image still not good). And I do not have a wireless network to benefit (? U$150.00) from the wireless card. So the extra size and weight are out and the smaller screen and VERY smaller and lighter TG50 is in.

[The Professor]

I have both models.

The swivel hinge on the NR70V gets a bit fragile with heavy use (I've used one since last September, got my TG50 last week). I dropped the NR70V and the hinge got wobblier.

The camera's not very good. I'd save the money and get the NR70 if you really want that big, power-hungry screen. The screen real estate is nice, but using grafitti as much as I did caused scratches where the letters in the virtual graffiti space pops up.

The screen is ok, but the TG50 is brighter (and although the screen is smaller on the TG50, it's easier on my 42 year old eyes). I like the keyboard on the TG50 better. The weight of the NR70V makes it a pain to carry around....may as well carry a Franklin Planner since the NR70V is barely pocketable.

The speaker on the TG50 is a bit better, I think, and the processor does a much better job of sorting ActionNames addresses.

Owning both, I'd say go for the new model. It's got much better battery life since the screen's a third smaller. For business use, definitely no contest.

Palm Reader, using a dark background and 'yellow' text is easy on the eyes and makes the TG50 a great book reader too.

[swinter]

Originally posted by The Professor
I have both models.

The swivel hinge on the NR70V gets a bit fragile with heavy use (I've used one since last September, got my TG50 last week). I dropped the NR70V and the hinge got wobblier.

The camera's not very good. I'd save the money and get the NR70 if you really want that big, power-hungry screen. The screen real estate is nice, but using grafitti as much as I did caused scratches where the letters in the virtual graffiti space pops up.

The screen is ok, but the TG50 is brighter (and although the screen is smaller on the TG50, it's easier on my 42 year old eyes). I like the keyboard on the TG50 better. The weight of the NR70V makes it a pain to carry around....may as well carry a Franklin Planner since the NR70V is barely pocketable.

The speaker on the TG50 is a bit better, I think, and the processor does a much better job of sorting ActionNames addresses.

Owning both, I'd say go for the new model. It's got much better battery life since the screen's a third smaller. For business use, definitely no contest.

Palm Reader, using a dark background and 'yellow' text is easy on the eyes and makes the TG50 a great book reader too.

 

Sounds like a good analysis. Now here's an even harder question: Buy the TG50 now or wait and see what Sony introduces next month ?

[tantousha]

Originally posted by swinter


 

Sounds like a good analysis. Now here's an even harder question: Buy the TG50 now or wait and see what Sony introduces next month ?

Well seeing as how Sony released the NX and the NZ, two high end models, then they released the SJ33 a budget model and then the TG50, a midrange model, I'd put my money on Sony releasing a new High-end model next...they seem to like doing it in order. Though I'm willing to bet you the next budget model will be OS5 seeing as how OS6 is now in the works...

Since I'm sure they're going to release another high end model and it will probably be a clamshell PDA I think it is safe to get the TG50....

[swinter]

Originally posted by tantousha


Well seeing as how Sony released the NX and the NZ, two high end models, then they released the SJ33 a budget model and then the TG50, a midrange model, I'd put my money on Sony releasing a new High-end model next...they seem to like doing it in order. Though I'm willing to bet you the next budget model will be OS5 seeing as how OS6 is now in the works...

Since I'm sure they're going to release another high end model and it will probably be a clamshell PDA I think it is safe to get the TG50....

 

also a good analysis. but I so wanted a T Series w/ VG and the larger screen.

of course, the advantage of a new NX for me is that they would presumedly have fixed the incompatibility with the foldup keyboard.

oh, and BTW -- the cheapest price I found for the TG50 is $338 (+ $9.00 shipping) at www.mwave.com

[tantousha]

mwave? never heard of them...reliable?

[swinter]

Originally posted by tantousha
mwave? never heard of them...reliable?

dunno. dealtime says so. just ordered my TG50 (and a flip case from Brando), so I guess'll I'll have to let you know.

[tantousha]

Originally posted by swinter


dunno. dealtime says so. just ordered my TG50 (and a flip case from Brando), so I guess'll I'll have to let you know.

Great...I'm ordering my TG the second I sell my Treo 90...say....wanna buy a Treo 90?? anyone??

[jwang0416]

wellcome to the TG family...and good choice...

[tiwee]

Yeah! very good choice! Welcome!

[ngwailung]

I share with Sneezy. I am using a low-profile black leather case with my TG50...

[steven_wck]

Originally posted by ErnieB
TG-50, hands down.  Form factor, size, weight, etc., are all better.  VG and HiRes+ are cool, but that's all they are.

How does the thumbpad feel? I am very comfortable with Grafitti but this model seem to have completely replaced Grafitti with the thumbpad.

[tiwee]

Well, it is up to you! I am pretty comfortable with the thumb board but I don't use it much only with some shortcuts combinations.

I uses tealscript to write it on screen so it really does not matter whether there is a grafitti area a not. The whole screen is my grafitti! Some uses newpen, grafitti anywhere or jot to replaced the missing grafitti area too!

[swinter]

guess I'll have to change my icon, too.

[tantousha]

Originally posted by swinter
guess I'll have to change my icon, too.

what, you mean your avatar? I want a TG50 for mine but I don't see one in the list and I don't know how to add a custom one...maybe you can only do that after a certain post count?

Anyhew, have an offer on my Treo so once that goes through I'm going to make my purchase...just can't decide if I should save the money by going online or go the impatient way through my Sony Store. Any advantages by buying it through my Sony store?

[swinter]

Originally posted by tantousha


what, you mean your avatar? I want a TG50 for mine but I don't see one in the list and I don't know how to add a custom one...

Yes, I meant avatar. When I have a chance, I guess I'll make my own custom one and upload it.

maybe you can only do that after a certain post count?


Not sure (it's been so long). Look at the bottom of the page of the second ("options," I think) tab.


Anyhew, have an offer on my Treo so once that goes through I'm going to make my purchase...just can't decide if I should save the money by going online or go the impatient way through my Sony Store. Any advantages by buying it through my Sony store?

None that I know of. I don't think they are any better about returns than anyone else. (I bought my current CLIE through Dell -- that was before the Axim, of course.)

[Unregistered]

I would skip the TG-50 and wait for Sony to come up with a WiFi version. And I bet it is just around the corner. The NX70V is a good machine but ever so slightly missing its full potential.

It has a camera but doesn't really work that well as one. It has WiFi capability but you got to pay quite a bit to enable it. It has a keyboard but is not that great to use. Don't get me wrong, if you are looking for a jack-of-all-trades machine the NX is probably it.

The TG-50 is beautiful but again ever so slightly missing its full potential. Bluetooth is good but you can't really browse the web without paying huge telco fees. Whereas with WiFi the speed is faster and the fees are lower.

If you can wait - and looking at Sony's fast product cycles the TG-50 will surely be superseded very soon by a WiFi version. Already the NX is going on discounted price.

[tiwee]

The latest clie that Sony is to come up is NX series which is nxt month or in June. So if you want another TG series, perhaps will have to wait till August.

If you can really wait, it might not have WIFI also.

Of course, I would like it to happen as well! Then I can change again!

[tantousha]

Well, I did it. Today I bought my TG50 and it is currently sitting in its cradle charging. Damn...4 hours....my Treo 90 only took 90 min. on its first charge. Oh well. *stares at Clie charging, looks at watch, goes back to staring at Clie*

[rTenshi]

Theres a MS plug for a camera which you can use with the TG50 if you really need a camera. Besides, if you get a bluetooth phone with a camera, then you can BT your pics.

[rTenshi]

The TG50 has a hires screen anyway doesnt it? Just smaller?