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tom_handheld
04-07-2003, 04:59 PM
What do you think is the best back up utility/application for Clies with OS 4.01 (i.e., less needed space, fast, reliable, etc.)? I'm using NR70V. Thanks :)

wellsjs
04-07-2003, 05:25 PM
Go here: http://www.bluenomad.com/

The "VFS" version is for PDA only and will automate (schedule in the middle of the night, etc.) your backups, plus encrypt them.

The full version includes VFS and has a desktop app that backs up everything to your hard drive and a mirror backup (drive/folder of your choice). It also has virus scanner software. Great app! ;)

dentateck
04-07-2003, 05:47 PM
I second that, BackupBuddy for PC and BackupBuddy VFS for handheld. Just make sure you get full VFS version not a free one, full version lets you make incremental backups and select files if you don't want to go thru full backup. Works for me!

bobbd
04-07-2003, 06:08 PM
I looked at a number of them and read the threads on ClieSource and decided CardBackup filled my needs. Haven't been disappointed yet.

Bob

Tixx
04-07-2003, 06:30 PM
For OS 5 I just did a full backup with BackUpMan and it worked flawlessly as I had a hardrest occur.:)

sebring
04-07-2003, 06:41 PM
If you use MSMount or PiDirect, Cardbackup can't be beat. I am a registered user of both BackupBuddy and Cardbackup. I was never able to get scheduled backups to work without a crash using BackupBuddyVFS. I currently use BackupBuddy for Windows to backup to my PC on hotsync and Cardbackup to backup to MS. Cardbackup offer up to 7 separate backup sets before it starts overwriting the earliest. Scheduled backups work flawlessly, even with MSMount. Individual file restore os available or full restore. Also possible to restore selected group of files.

kennyd
04-07-2003, 07:09 PM
CardBackup! Sebring sold me on trying it out about a month ago. I was looking for a backup utility that could actually do a faithful restore. BackupBuddyVFS got replaced with CardBackup.

fengwei007
04-08-2003, 05:54 AM
I'm using BackupBuddyVFS right now, but looks CardBackup seems quite interesting, especially after all these reviews. I use PiDirect II for many software, and I have over 10 hacks and several DAs. BackupBuddyVFS works fine up to now. I'm not quite sure about CardBackup. Can anybody compare these two? Esepcially the speed, fully-restore-ability? Thanks for any inputs.

anniebluesky
04-08-2003, 06:22 AM
I like BackupMan. It allows timed backups, a certain number of backups to be kept on your MS card, and it also allows you to only backup or restore certain programs if you don't want to do a full backup.

boomer
04-08-2003, 07:15 AM
JBBackup all the way. 

 

It isn't as slick as CardBackup, but it does a fast backup and a smooth instant restore.  Never a problem with it for me.

 

kennyd
04-08-2003, 07:24 AM
BackupBuddyVFS could not successfully restore my device. I ran into some conflict in my system after loading Mapopolis. I was forced into the ELOD (Endless Loop Of Death) many times. Warm resets couldn't pull me out and Hard resets were my only escape. BBVFS just could not restore my system. Fortunately I had BackupBuddy on my desktop. But after realizing that my backups on my MS were useless I began testing other backup utilities. I went through most if not all of them and asked questions on this forum. With each app I would do a backup and attempted restore. If any of the apps failed in either of these processes I obviously rejected that one. CardBackup was litterally the only backup utility that could successfully restore my system.

boomer
04-08-2003, 07:44 AM
How did JBBackup fail for you?

wnm
04-08-2003, 09:18 AM
PiBackup II. Very versitile, fast, and has never failed.

rldunn
04-08-2003, 10:12 AM
I highly recommend JBBackup for OS4 devices, but unfortunately, it doesn't work on OS5.

fengwei007
04-11-2003, 06:53 AM
Does JBBackup work for SJ30? I heard that it's not compatible with new SJ and T series. Can anybody clarify this? Thanks a lot.

gheffo
04-11-2003, 12:43 PM
I use Sync All, very small file, and has saved me many times when i've had to do a hard reset!

yOyOYoo
04-11-2003, 03:17 PM
any backup utility that backs up Powerrun shortcuts?

everytime I hard reset, it is a Pain in the butt to get all of my shortcuts back. I have to manually move the program back to Palm RAm (with Mcfile) then use powerrun to move it to MS again.

n2ifp
04-11-2003, 09:48 PM
Yes, Backupman restored my PowerRun shortcuts!

yOyOYoo
04-11-2003, 10:08 PM
thanks I've give it a whirl!

emmert
04-11-2003, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by yOyOYoo
any backup utility that backs up Powerrun shortcuts?

everytime I hard reset, it is a Pain in the butt to get all of my shortcuts back. I have to manually move the program back to Palm RAm (with Mcfile) then use powerrun to move it to MS again.
How about just use PowerRun's 'update shortcuts' command.

rldunn
04-11-2003, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by fengwei007
Does JBBackup work for SJ30? I heard that it's not compatible with new SJ and T series. Can anybody clarify this? Thanks a lot. I can verify that it does NOT work for the SJ30. Not sure about any of the T-series.

RoyoftheRovers
05-18-2003, 12:50 PM
What benefits do these 3rd part apps have over the MSBackup utility?

zeke87
05-18-2003, 01:20 PM
I use Botzam Backup. Although I can't get the scheduled backups to work, it restors EVERYTHING FLAWLESSLY. Beautiful app. It's saved me numerous times.

My $.02

Z

Unregistered
05-19-2003, 11:03 AM
Sync All sets the back up bits for EVERY file after every Hotsync. Please comment on any disadvantages of this FREE app. That is, what do the other backup apps (that generally cost about $15) do that this free app doesn't do?

rldunn
05-19-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by RoyoftheRovers
What benefits do these 3rd part apps have over the MSBackup utility? The biggest benefit is scheduling. Most of these apps will create a new backup whenever you want (mine is in the middle of the night), which means you always have a recent backup if you never need to restore. Unless you can remember to backup daily with MSBackup, it won't be as reliable.

pixelpainter
05-19-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by rldunn
The biggest benefit is scheduling. Most of these apps will create a new backup whenever you want (mine is in the middle of the night), which means you always have a recent backup if you never need to restore. Unless you can remember to backup daily with MSBackup, it won't be as reliable.

I have mine set to a time, that I know, I'll use it afterward. ie 10:30 pm. So if it happens to hang, for some inknown reason, it doesn't sta on all night. BackupMan is a great prog. IMHO :)

Imda
05-19-2003, 11:52 AM
BackupMan - I've only had my NX 70 for a week and BackupMan has already saved my butt several times :)

RoyoftheRovers
05-20-2003, 11:53 AM
Ok, thanks all.

I'm evaluating Backupman at the mo. When I set up my first backup, inadvertantly I had MS masquerading set so the backup was saved to my CF card (cool I thought), however presumably this in't such a hot idea since I would need to restore the CF driver b4 I can restore anything else - is it really feasible to backup to CF or should I stick with MS?

rolando
05-20-2003, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
Sync All sets the back up bits for EVERY file after every Hotsync. Please comment on any disadvantages of this FREE app. That is, what do the other backup apps (that generally cost about $15) do that this free app doesn't do?

The biggest issue with this type of app is sets the backup bit on all apps, regardless. Not a big issue for most files, but apps like AvantGo create a huge file that gets updated every sync. With the backup bit on this file set, it causes it to be backed up on each hotsync. Since the file can be very large, it can really extend the hotsync time.

However, I used BackUpAll for a while. I just had to remember to go and deselect the backup bit for the AvantGo data file afterward. It worked fine.

I use BackupBuddyVFS and it automatically backs things up to my card every night. I've used the backup several time to restore my T665. It worked flawlessly each time. However, the one thing that it doesn't do is reinstall itself from the card. Therefore, you have to remember to copy BackupBuddyVFS to RAM again or your scheduled backups don't happen.

Rolando

ShellyBelly
05-20-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
Sync All sets the back up bits for EVERY file after every Hotsync. Please comment on any disadvantages of this FREE app. That is, what do the other backup apps (that generally cost about $15) do that this free app doesn't do?


SyncAll backups everything to your PC, the other programs that are being discussed here backup to the MS:)

volcanopele
05-20-2003, 01:36 PM
I use PiBackupII to backup my Clie's RAM to MS. Fast and reliable, I haven't had a problem restoring since I have used it. It has scheduled backups but I rarely use it since I keep my backup on a seperate MS from my data and media.