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TimothyP
11-10-2005, 01:30 PM
Im suprised no one posted this (http://www.dataviz.com/products/documentstogo/premium/index.html)
harpgliss
11-10-2005, 03:46 PM
Hi,

I think someone did.

http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100597 and near as I can tell, posted about 20 minutes earlier than you.

David
TimothyP
11-10-2005, 04:00 PM
Hi,

I think someone did.

http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100597 and near as I can tell, posted about 20 minutes earlier than you.

David

oh, thanks.
harpgliss
11-10-2005, 04:09 PM
Hi,

You are welcome.

David
SoS
11-11-2005, 03:57 AM
anyone tried it out????
lbugnion
11-11-2005, 07:57 AM
I came, I tried, I upgraded! Finally a native PDF solution!! It's working great.

Greetings,
Laurent
Maticek
11-11-2005, 08:21 AM
Does it work with bigger files also? Let's say like the Ipod book from ilounge?
SoS
11-11-2005, 08:35 AM
I came, I tried, I upgraded! Finally a native PDF solution!! It's working great.

Greetings,
Laurent


somone has reported that it is very slow on a TH55 (oresumably in comparison to picselviewer) - how about on the LD??

ps. anyone know if D2G is 68k or ARM???
SoS
11-11-2005, 08:38 AM
just answered my second question - its 68k apparently which may explaain some of the speed I guess (if indeed speed is a problem)
lbugnion
11-11-2005, 08:59 AM
Hi,

I routinely open big Excel or Word files, both native or converted. No problems at all. How big a file are you speaking of?

Laurent
lbugnion
11-11-2005, 09:01 AM
just answered my second question - its 68k apparently which may explaain some of the speed I guess (if indeed speed is a problem)

AFAICS, the speed is very similar to DTG V7. It's not a problem at all on the LD. The only occasions where you have to wait a little is when you open or close a native file, because a conversion process takes place on the PDA. But even then, I never found it too slow for my needs.

Laurent
Maticek
11-11-2005, 09:35 AM
I' m talking of 30 MB big files.
SoS
11-11-2005, 09:48 AM
AFAICS, the speed is very similar to DTG V7. It's not a problem at all on the LD. The only occasions where you have to wait a little is when you open or close a native file, because a conversion process takes place on the PDA. But even then, I never found it too slow for my needs.

Laurent

sorry Laurent, I specifically meant pdf files!!
Maticek
11-11-2005, 02:55 PM
Am I doing something wrong? I downloaded the demo version, installed it and moved some pdfs to my LD. All of them are somekind of copyrighted (encrypted). I can view them normally on my PC, and partially with the Picsel Browser (because it gets out of memory). However, docstogo doesn't open them at all. Says I should disable the security settings, which I can't because I don't have the professional adobe acrobat nor have I the passwort to decrypt the files. Help.
lbugnion
11-11-2005, 02:55 PM
sorry Laurent, I specifically meant pdf files!!

Oh, OK! Well, when you open a PDF file, there is a conversion process taking place, but it is surprisingly fast, I must say. After that, if you zoom (in or out), you also have to wait for a moment. But all in all, it's really fast enough to be usable.

I'd say that the best is to try it for yourself (there is a demo valid one month downloadable at www.dataviz.com)

HTH,
Laurent
lbugnion
11-12-2005, 02:16 AM
Hi,

What really matters in a PDF file is not its size, but its compression rate. I am able to open a 21MB file in 8 seconds, but it's almost uncompressed. However, a 7MB heavily compressed file took 32 seconds. In one case (14 MB, compressed), I got an out of memory error.

For the records, here is what I tested. The times are measured using the "Open" dialog in DTG8. I timed from the moment I pressed the "OK" button until I was able to see the PDF file in "Fill screen" mode. The files were located on the harddrive, in the Documents folder. The documents are samples from our software development project documentation library, and are fairly complex presentations.

PDF:
337 KB compressed: 4 seconds
779 KB compressed: 5 seconds
7.2 MB compressed: 32 seconds
21 MB low compression: 8 seconds

PPT (native):
97 KB: 8 seconds
197 KB: 7 seconds
1.9 MB: 13 seconds

I also tested with Word and Excel documents, all of them (even very big ones) opened without any problems, in good times.

HTH,
Laurent
lbugnion
11-12-2005, 02:21 AM
Hi,

I ran into this with two documents: My new Sony TV manual (downloaded in PDF format from Sony's website) and... the LifeDrive's user manual (Oh the irony ;-)

It's a copyright problem, as usual. These documents are protected, and Dataviz chose the option to not allow these documents to be displayed. If you modify them (easy to do, but you need the commercial Adobe software (I have it, I'll try later)), then it's you who is responsible and guilty for removing the protection, not Dataviz. It makes sense, but it's frustrating. In this case, RepliGo is able to display the documents, because the protection is overcome by the way RepliGo works, but then you need a PC.

I fear there is nothing to be done to improve things (from the user's point of view ;-) in this matter...

Laurent
Maticek
11-12-2005, 02:44 AM
I don' t think you can easily remove the copyright. Don' t you need a password to do it?
lbugnion
11-12-2005, 04:19 AM
I don' t think you can easily remove the copyright. Don' t you need a password to do it?

Hi,

That's right. I was basing my answer on this (http://support.dataviz.com/support.srch?docid=13678&redirect=pdfencrypt) where no mention of a password is made.

However, I tested it on the LifeDrive's manual, and you need to enter a password to change the security. So (logically, of course), it's all a matter of how the document has been encrypted.

I guess I won't uninstall RepliGo for the moment (not that I wanted to anyway ;-)

Greetings,
Laurent
Maticek
11-12-2005, 05:26 AM
I think this makes the pdf support almost useless as most PDFs are encrypted.
SoS
11-12-2005, 05:34 AM
I think this makes the pdf support almost useless as most PDFs are encrypted.

I would tend to agree and this has just saved me $29!! I need to be able to take downloaded papers from scientific journals which are all copyrighted of course since I have access to them by Institutional subscription. If I cant open these without faffing around with adobe acrobat, I may as well not bother....so close and yet, so far!!
Maticek
11-12-2005, 05:59 AM
You can still try the demo, and see if it works for you. For me it doesn't.
lbugnion
11-12-2005, 10:21 AM
I think this makes the pdf support almost useless as most PDFs are encrypted.

Very useful for me anyway, since most PDF documents I handle are edited either by me or by colleagues, thus not encrypted.

Laurent
Maticek
11-12-2005, 11:11 AM
I can see your point. I only found one pdf file on my computer that I could try. It were some notes for learning made by an older student. So far I'm a bit dissapointed. Nevertheless, I must admit that the way it worked was quite positive. Would it only work on all files. :P