Apps That Look Great but Suck

[Telhai]

'what apps have you bought' seems to be a popular theme and comes up again and again.

Looking over them it seems to me that there are some applications that look great but, after you install them and possibly even register, they seem never to quite live up to those great expectations.

They end up gathering dust on the PDA until finally they are quietly deleted.

So how about a list of applications that looked great, but for whatever reason, never quite realised what they promised?

[rldunn]

For me, it's usually games that fall into this category. At the top of the list would have to be Monopoly. The AI is not very good and it gets really boring after awhile. Very disappointing after how much it cost.

[n2ifp]

NetFront

Backupman

Fitaly Virtual keyboard

[rldunn]

Why Backupman?

[wellsjs]

SilverScreen!! (launcher)
SplashClock
Slap
FireViewer

Disclaimer: What is of little use to me may not apply to others! :D

[ballistic]

Contacts 4. Good use of color, but way too busy. I deleted the demo after about 5 minutes.

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by ballistic
Contacts 4. Good use of color, but way too busy. I deleted the demo after about 5 minutes. I agree with that. That's the first app I thought of. WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much stuff . . .

Kindof like ZL with all the stuff showing. ;)

[aaronrkelly]

Lemonade Tycoon and rldunn is correct with the monoploy, it kinda sucks. Right now I am enjoying Rifle Slugs II - good game.

[Joel]

Originally posted by n2ifp
NetFront

Backupman

Fitaly Virtual keyboard

Thanks! You've reminded me to play around with skin designs for Fitaly. I'm thinking if it's all greyscale, it'll fit well with the default status bar and graffiti area. Hmmm... I think I'll make a separate post for this soon. :)

[Narniahopper]

Originally posted by *YellowRose*
WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much stuff . . .

Kindof like ZL with all the stuff showing. ;)

Careful now. Them's fightin' words. ;)

[Joel]

But the new ZL allows you to hide "all the stuff showing." :D

[hherbzilla]

SilverScreen and FireViewer.

SilverScreen was the first launcher I purchased. I thought it looked great. I found some themes and all was well. Then I waited for more themes. And waited. And waited. And waited. Thank goodness for ZL!

FireViewer isn't a bad app, it's just that I found AcidImage after purchasing it. AI basically does everything I bought FireViewer for, and is updated more frequently.

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by fireball
But the new ZL allows you to hide "all the stuff showing." :D Yup. That's EXACTLY what I do.

The screenshots of the 320x320 screens with **EVERYTHING** showing just looks horrendous (and yes, I KNOW they're showing the icons, etc.).

I can't imagine . . . bleh! (For me anyhow . . . 'MY' ZL is simple and elegant and does what I want it to. ;)

[NR70V-o-holic]

I agree with Contacts 4 and to add something actually
deleted:

Ballistics, the new game from MS, really boring after a few
minutes playtime....

Noh

[Cheechwhiz]

Thanks to ClieSource, I've been steered away from wasting money on many, many apps that just seemed like "I gotta hav'em"s.
This board will save you money and time.
Support shareware

[yorrick]

Again - this is my opinion and others may disagree...

Apps:
Fitaly virtual keyboard (not supported above 3.3 ... and no more than 2 bit screen)

Games:
Air Traffic Controller
Scorched Earth (compared with RifleSlugs II ... sweeet!!)
DragonFire (nice hi-res, but the game was too linear and short)
Extinction
Puzzles In Motion
Thesaurus by DDH

Apps/Games which was left vapourware in updates:
Launch'Em
LauncherX
MagicText (thank goodness DAs have taken over, but I still paid for this piece of rubbish!)
SimCity

[volcanopele]

I'm with rldunn, that's the reason I don't buy many games. Sure they were cool and neat when I first played them but after awhile, newer and better games followed making the ones I bought before obsolete. here is a list of some of the games that I have purchased but soon never played again followed by a list of games that have legs.

Game looked great at first but are now gathering dust from the lack of use:
Lemonade Tycoon
Bump Attack
Insaniquarium
SimCity
Biplane Ace
Atomsmash
TakTik

Games that seem to stick around and have played since I purchased them:
Bejeweled (purchased 2 years ago!!!!. This was the first program I ever purchased. I have had this game almost as long as I have had a Palm OS device of some kind)
Kickoo's Breakout
MegaBowling
Monopoly
Scrabble

Jason

[wellsjs]

Originally posted by fireball
But the new ZL allows you to hide "all the stuff showing." :D That's why I'm still with YiShow! I found myself trying to hide all the ZL "stuff" to make it look like my YiShow main screen, and not being a rocket scientist it took a little bit. I said, "Wait a minute, even if I can make ZL hide all the tabs, etc. and look like YiShow, why buy another launcher?" (already paid for three)

[rhart00]

Originally posted by NR70V-o-holic
Ballistics, the new game from MS, really boring after a few
minutes playtime....

Noh

I agree. Even though it has a SLIGHT twist, do we really need another one of these very similar puzzle games?

[(oyo)]

For me I think it was FileMan 2.2... Looks great but can't beam any files...

[stevec_ny]

For me it would be the first version of Jot back when I had the Palm Vx. I found I did better with the built-in graffiti. I registered Fitaly (& now Fitaly Virtual) & never looked back. :D

[Avatar]

For me, the most recent example: Ballistics :(

[Avatar]

Originally posted by stevec_ny
For me it would be the first version of Jot back when I had the Palm Vx. I found I did better with the built-in graffiti. I registered Fitaly (& now Fitaly Virtual) & never looked back. :D

Actually, IMHO, Jot was quite nice and I am using right now. I turn off the ink anyway, so probably doesn't count as "look great". :)

[BBERIC]

LEMONADE TYCOON (waste money.....)

[kstuart]

IMHO:

- Yishow (my Clie became stable when I removed it)
- SmartInput (there is no point to using that app)
- MessagEase (too complicated and cumbersome)
- WorldMate (does nothing that is not found elsewhere for less)
- LapTopHack (there's no guarantee that humans will still be using PDAs by the time you finish the 230235702 page manual)

[valodya]

Funny, I just looked at MagicText on Palmgear. It was last updated in March, 1999 (!) but got an enthusiastic review (the kind with lots of exclamation points) in Jan. 2003. I was kind of amused. So we can all feel smug that we know better. ;)

[MonkeyK]

I licensed MagicText. I had no idea that SynSolutions closed shop (how's that for service).

The product itself is very nice, but free DAs can replace all of it's functionality.

[PalmGearJenn]

Actually Zero-Sixty has taken over licensing for that product.

[Telhai]

Wow - some really interesting stuff here.

I was surprised to see WorldMate on the list; I actually use this alot and think it's one of the best applications I bought. I am an Australian, living in Jamaica, working across the Caribbean for a UK based multi-national with key contacts across Europe and the US and without the currency converter and time-zone clocks and calculator I'd be lost.

Which brings me to the point -- many applications we buy (or try) might never return an investment to us (as in individual) because our specific situation doesn't allow (or incline) us to benefit from the applications offerings. Worldmate might be an example of that (i.e. if you don't need it - don't buy it!). Kinoma (the movie player) and FirePad is another example. They both work great but unless you making movies to watch on your clie why would you bother? (OK OK I know Firepad does images as well but AcidImage rules OK?)

The real value (for me) of this thread are the apps that promise much, look like they have the goods on first inspection, but then overtime reveal they're deficiencies (i.e. poor support, poor design or lack of power/flexibilty).

Guess I won't be buying that Lemonade game anytime soon :)

[randy_m]

I thought Scrabble got boring pretty quickly, and it's huge to boot.

I, for one, really like Contacts 4 - looks great and works fine....

[Jeremyf]

Hi,

Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in re: FitalyVirtual - I'm using it on my NX70v and I gotta say, I absolutely LOVE it - I can now easily and consistenly/reliably enter 45 words per minute on my NX70v. My guess is that those who don't like it didn't have the patience to master the system... The learned curve is not bad though, within a few days you'll be entering text way way quicker than with Graphitti.

Jeremy

[madkins007]

"Bought and paid for programs I wasted money on":

BDicty- Sounds great, and is a good program, but I never actually USE it.

Maxis Notes- I used this on my color Clie until BugMe finally did color right. I had registered BugMe back in my Visor days.

DeepReader- a good doc reader, but now I just use the built-in reader in YiShow.

DateBook 4- I kept switching between DateBook and ActionNames, and finally settled on ActionNames. Another good product I just don't need.

Astraware's PopCap Game Pack and GameHouse Game Pack. Both offered a game I like (and still use), but others I just don't anymore- I LOVE Bejeweled and Mummy Maze is not bad, but Seven Seas, Alchemy, and Atomica are dead weight. Text Twist is good, but the others in this group did not hold my attention.

HandScape and WorldMate- just never used them. YiShow is my default launcher now and works great for me. I don't travel enough for WorldMate to do anything for me.

Launcers... dear Lord. I bought MegaLauncher, Launcher III, and others. Thankfully, I was able to transfer a couple over to my kid's PDAs.

Printer utilities- IR Print, PrintBoy Deluxe, and PalmPrint. I have owned two different IR printers and an IR adaptor for a regular printer in the last few years, and probably only printed out 4 or 5 things.

JackFlash and JackSprat. I tried playing with my ROM, but keep going back to a factory default setting. I have grown to dislike this sort of tweaking (and hacks as well).

JBBackUp- BackupBuddy is better, adn the BackupBuddy Bundle isa great deal.

Kinoma Producer. I have found very few movies I am interested in that PictureGear cannot convert but Kinoma can. I basically got it for a couple trailers, and ended up not even keeping them!

UnDupe- a good program to remove duplicated files, but Backup Buddy and the newest Palm Desktop do this as well.

InWatch- a deletion program, but I ever remember to activate it before I install stuff so it is pretty worthless to me.

Then, there are programs I got for old PDAs I don't need anymore- powerRUN, PIDirect, FA suite, OmniRemote and OmniRemote Pro, etc.

Hey, if anyone is interested, I'll sell any of these for a good price, and help transfer the ownership if possible!

[Caffeine kid]

Contacts 4 is just fluff, dont need it.

Zlauncher is nice to look at, but really not needed

[cpwoo]

Another vote for Contacts 4. It looked great, but it was sluggish on my T615 and its footprint was huge to boot.

[yawn]

ZLauncher, YiShow, and MegaLauncher

[sebring]

LightNzip.

If they fix the display issues on my NR, it qualifies as looks great, but their lame demo (limited to zipping 100k files) makes it impossible to find out it take approximately twice as long to zip large files as FlyZip on OS4 devices. Great sounding feature set, but in actual application leave a lot to be desired. Frequent crashes on unzipping from it's file manager. Even though it's on it's third update, it still has an early beta feel to it.

[mochant]

Originally posted by hherbzilla
SilverScreen and FireViewer.

SilverScreen was the first launcher I purchased. I thought it looked great. I found some themes and all was well. Then I waited for more themes. And waited. And waited. And waited. Thank goodness for ZL! <snip>
I loved SilverScreen when I first saw it and bought it immediately (for a Palm m505). I'm a commited ZL user now (and probably forever if they keep up the insane support and responsiveness they've shown so far!).

[paxton]

LauncherX
Mi:D (don't know but never use it)

[wellsjs]

Originally posted by yawn
ZLauncher, YiShow, and MegaLauncher You just alienated yourself from about 98.5% of this forums members! :D

[sadrik]

For the most part, I too have been burned by games. I have come to be unhappy with:

Monopoly's AI (you agreed to trade Boardwalk for $10 to the guy who owns Park Place??! Die! Die!),

Insaniquarium,

Lemonade Tycoon.

[anniebluesky]

...Originally posted by yawn
ZLauncher, YiShow, and MegaLauncher ...


Originally posted by wellsjs
You just alienated yourself from about 98.5% of this forums members! :D

Not me....I use the built in CLIE Launcher :p :D

[DanT]

Originally posted by kstuart
IMHO:&nbsp;
- WorldMate (does nothing that is not found elsewhere for less)


One man's trash is another man's treasure.

WorldMate is one of my most use app.&nbsp; For $8,&nbsp;at the time I bought it, it was and still is, well worth the money with the world currency daily update,&nbsp;worldwide "The Weather Channel" daily update, Atomic clock daily synchronization, just to name a few.&nbsp;&nbsp;

[Telhai]

Concur that WorldMate does what others do -- but it does it in a package which is (imho) the best possible available. Regardless of whether you need it or like it you can't argue it doesn't do what it promises (and therefore is not an app that looks great but sux)

Zlauncher is another which does what it says very well; so once again you can't argue it sucks - you might think it's a waste of money but that's cool.

The reall killers are the ones that actually do raise expectations but then fail to deliver and leave one feeling like a complete sucker. Games can tend to fit this bill quite frequently; and other apps just don't get the support they need.

I reckon AvantGo (for those of us stuck in OS 4.0) is fast becoming an app that sucks -- it used to be great but they're not keeping it current esp. in regards to OS 4.0 high res devices.

Avantgo sucks.

[valodya]

Yeah, but Avantgo is free, so you can't complain too much. And so far, I haven't found anything similar that allows you to sync wirelessly, so it still fills a niche. HiRes+ would be nice though.

[Telhai]

Why can't I complain? Oh..now I see it's in the small print. Damn.

[valodya]

OK, perhaps I should have said, "One oughtn't complain too much." Clear? ;) I hasn't kept up with the bells and whistles, but it still does what it's supposed to.

[fireman54]

How about Multimail? Looked like it was a winner, then it just died. No further updates, no further support. Tried to use it with my first Clié. Crash city.

[sadrik]

Originally posted by valodya
Yeah, but Avantgo is free, so you can't complain too much. HiRes+ would be nice though.

Umm. Have you checked lately? The AvantGo beta is hires+. It is actually quite spectacular. For a free program, I think it does its job very well. Reading from MS is much improved too, but it still isn't _quite_ fast enough to be seamless.

[pixelpainter]

AGENDUS!

I have tried and tried to make this app useful, but I keep returning to Datebk5.

I also second the printing utils.

I also have around 50 programs I'll never use.

There should be a legal way to transfer ownership of programs we personally don't use but others would. Kind of like a swap shop. I'll trade you this for that. Naa.. that would make too much sense.

[Telhai]

Actually here's one - the Clie Camera. Let's face it; it's just a novelty and has absolutely no practical use whatsoever.

Can anyone tell me how to delete it?

p.s. the Avantgo High Res' beta only works with OS 5.0; on OS 4.0 the fonts suck so bad they're unreadable

[valodya]

Umm. Have you checked lately? The AvantGo beta is hires+. It is actually quite spectacular. For a free program, I think it does its job very well. Reading from MS is much improved too, but it still isn't _quite_ fast enough to be seamless.


Well, yes I have. They say explicitly that it supports OS 5 only. I have an NR70V. While it will run on OS 4, it displays in lowres+, as it were, that is full screen but in low resolution fonts, which looks like crap; HiRes Assist or SwitchDash don't help. HiRes- is still preferable for us Luddites who bought our machines almost a whole year ago. ;)

[Sacharissa]

Here's one nobody's mentioned yet: Ultrasoft Money. I tried it for the 30-day trial period, and while the interface was nowhere NEAR as elegant or intuitive as Splash Money, the fact that I could simply enter transactions and then seamlessly hotsync with Microsoft Money made it worth the price to me.

So I finally purchased and registered the app, and wouldn't you know it - the very next day, it started dropping transactions from my Clie, and screwing up the totals! Unless I can figure out what's going on, it looks like it's back to Splash Money for me, $34.95 the poorer... :(

[zipslack]

Most replacement launchers - and that includes ZLauncher, MegaLauncher, and LauncherX. Keeping in mind that I DO NOT have an NX unit (why does everybody assume that everybody else is dumb enough to spend that much money on a gadget that can fall out of your pocket?) All of these look like they could be great, but all have problems:

ZL - very nice effort, I'll check with them again after a few more releases. Main problem - too cluttered and "cartoonish". YiShow still works faster, has a cleaner interface, and is less confusing (with better file-manager integration)

ML - too big (You removed the Archiver and it got bigger?!) and extremely limited choice of themes (especially for us grayscale folks). Built-in filemanager is a joke.

LX - Ummmmm, should have been the Holy Grail, but ended up looking like some Monty Python skit.... Lack of support is DEATH TO ANY BUSINESS VENTURE!!! How hard is that to figure out?

OK, so I just offended almost everybody that uses this board.....so what? Grow up and realize that ZL is NOT the world's greatest launcher for all people. If only LauncherLight was still around with hi-res and VFS support........

[psychomom]

I tried one of the alternate launchers - I forget which one - but immediately unistalled it and went back to Clie launcher. The other ones are too cluttered for my taste!

[Telhai]

Launchers - waste of money - you decide ;)

Do they suck - well some might but most seem happy with them.

An app that sucks (n this thread) over promises and under delivers.

The three key launchers seem to do what they promise.

[DanT]

Originally posted by valodya

...Luddites...

Haven't heard that word.&nbsp; I would have thought that you are&nbsp;an extinct Brit rather than a Yankee.

[JGE66]

I'm new to NX70V/OS5 after my Palm Vx stopped working..


What free DA's replace the basic MagicText functions? I especially miss the double and triple tap highlighting, drag and drop cut, copy and pasting. And the pop up phone number pad, that was great!

quoted text;
I licensed MagicText. I had no idea that SynSolutions closed shop (how's that for service).

The product itself is very nice, but free DAs can replace all of it's functionality.
end quoted text

[hherbzilla]

Originally posted by zipslack
ZL - very nice effort, I'll check with them again after a few more releases. Main problem - too cluttered and "cartoonish". YiShow still works faster, has a cleaner interface, and is less confusing (with better file-manager integration)

...OK, so I just offended almost everybody that uses this board.....so what? Grow up and realize that ZL is NOT the world's greatest launcher for all people. If only LauncherLight was still around with hi-res and VFS support........ This is a common initial perception. If you play around with it some more, you'll see that it is highly configurable. You can make it as clean and clutter-free as you want... more so than any other launcher, really.

[kp*]

Originally posted by (oyo)
For me I think it was FileMan 2.2... Looks great but can't beam any files...

I actually bought FileMan because I find its attractive interface makes it easier to read when sorting through large numbers of files. I never knew that you can't beam anything, but that's OK because I beam like 1 file a year.

A few apps that I would put on the list:

* WorldMate -- I do find it useful, but for instance with the weather, it gives only basic information for each day, but it does it with a pretty interface. Vindigo gives me breakdowns of morning, afternoon, evening and night, but in an ugly text format. I keep finding myself torn between attractive display vs. useful information.

* One app I've been keeping my eye on for a long time is 3nity (it's a password-keeper). I love its concept of being navigable by colorful finger-sized buttons so you can tap quickly through the menus to narrow down the information you're looking for, but I always find that it can't match the customization possible with SplashID. Whenever it's updated I keep hoping it's been made more flexible and powerful, but no such luck last I checked. If there's one thing that drives me crazy about Palm apps, it's seeing two apps that if combined would be perfect, and neither one incorporates the good stuff from the other. Thankfully we have ZZTechs;)

[vincenttay79]

Yup, i agree that most of the games are a waste of money, u play for a while and then that it, it starts to colect dust in ur Clie!!
1) monopoly
2) scrabble
3) bump attack
4) lemonade tycoon

[Wolfsmoke]

Originally posted by zipslack
(why does everybody assume that everybody else is dumb enough to spend that much money on a gadget that can fall out of your pocket?)

Ouch.

[the_iceman]

I'd have to say.... ScreenShot. (Not to be confused with ScrShot). I accidently purchased ScreenShot instead of ScrShot... and BLACH... ScreenShot is not nearly as good as scrshot ... if you compare the two.. you will see. Some like the freeware versions... but ScrShot delivers exactly what they state it will. I've not had a single problem with scrshot!

ScreenShot (costing more than ScrShot) ..... has some issues with the NZ series. Not easily used and transferrence of the pics to the PC... etc.

Not worth the price in my book.

[Wolfsmoke]

SilverScreen bit the dust when I saw ZLauncher.
AstraWare's Pop Cap Pack - I dumped all but Bejeweled.
I also passed over freeware PassSV and PocketLibrary for Splash ID and SplashShopper - happy to pay for the desktop utility!

[gyffes]

Notice how one man's monopoly is a waste while for another, it's still a thrill? "Opinions are like..."

[ssulux]

I bought these apps and almost have never used it.
It doesn't mean that they're not good apps, only never been used in a pratical daily live.

fast cpu (only try 2 times and it always gave me hard reset).
flyzip (never really use it, I just move my apps to MS if the RAM is too full).
funbook (don't know why i buy this apps)
superutility (seems to be usefull, but actually almost never use it)
splashclock (lookin' good at the first time, but also never use it).
splashphoto (acid image is better)
wassup (lookin' good and usefull but I also never use it).
worldmate (complete apps but i do not need it).
neocal (also never use it)

Also there are a lot of games in the dust. The latest are toy races and zap. Also insaniquarium, only play with it in a week.

For current games, at this moment, i still try to beat BRUN in the table tennis 3d. Exodus III is also a good game.

[Ezikial Anta]

Anyone tell me the best launcher? I am thinkin of YiShow and ZL but... anyone have any opinion to add?

[karasu]

Anything from delorme

[ssulux]

Originally posted by Ezikial Anta
Anyone tell me the best launcher? I am thinkin of YiShow and ZL but... anyone have any opinion to add?


i have both registered.
i used to be a fan of yishow, now i am a great fan of zl.
cause the ui of zl can be complicated as it can be, but i can simplify it as yishow's look.

in simplifying, zl can even also hide the bottom bar and the STATUS BAR, while yishow can't.

But, yishow can copy one file in MS to other MS. also yishow faster in viewing image in MS.

anyway, zl is much cheaper and crazy in updating their launcher, so i don't think you can lose with zl features.

[rhinoman]

I am surprised by the number of users who feel let down by Scrabble. Sure its not too hard even at the highest level, but it is a great way to kill 15 minutes waiting for someone. If you want a more challenging version, the pocket pc one is better. I know, a lot of you put down ppc, but they are very good handhelds too. My clie is my favorite, but I use my ipaq 3955 almost as much.
Getting back to the apps that suck, I think most of the popular launchers suck because you have to spend a lot of time customizing them just to get them to look uncluttered. On the other hand, Power Run rocks! It lessens the need for a launcher quite a bit.


rhinoman


:)

[allesi]

I just bought this (Repligo). Looks great but it lacking everything that could make it actually functional:

Bookmarks
Search feature
Replication technology to keep up with document changes on the desktop.

[Eric S]

Originally posted by zipslack
Keeping in mind that I DO NOT have an NX unit (why does everybody assume that everybody else is dumb enough to spend that much money on a gadget that can fall out of your pocket?)

I try not to make that assumption. On the other hand, I would assume that anyone that spent that much money on a gadget is either going to take better care of it (my NX60 has only hit the floor once, thanks to a cat that thinks it owns my computer desk) or has enough money that replacing it isn't a big issue. I've never put my NX60 in a pocket it could fall out of. Until I got a belt case, it went in my book bag or in the front pocket of my pants, provided the pants were loose enough, and now it lives in my Ripoffs case except when in use or when charging. Maybe I shouldn't make that assumption.

[dphar]

Maybe I had to spend that much money...My T615 fell out of my pocket and even though in a DSI metal case, hit in just the wrong place,. My NX70V will never go in my pocket...

[caseyatbt]

Here's my wasted money. Had an NR. Paid for NR Buttons and Tappad. A few weeks later got a good deal and upgraded to an NX. Great programs that I can no longer use.

[Rosco339]

Originally posted by Telhai
Actually here's one - the Clie Camera. Let's face it; it's just a novelty and has absolutely no practical use whatsoever.




Not true! I used to think that as well, but I finally found an honest-to-goodness practical use for it!


I use it all the time when I go shopping. Several of the stores I shop at (mainly hardware & contractor supply stores) often do not put individual price tags on their merchandise. Instead, they tag the shelf where the item sits (the Home Depot is one of the worst offenders in this regard).

In the past, every single time I needed to buy an item that wasn't tagged I'd have to wait at the register while the cashier called for a price check or left to go look up the SKU number. This never seemed so bad until the day I was running late and it took almost ten minutes for the kid behind the counter to get it right.

Now, whenever I have an item without an individual tag, I immediately take a close-up picture of the inventory tag on the shelf. When I get to the register, I have the pic handy and the cashier has ALL of the relevant information to ring up the sale. I haven't had to wait for a price check again since I started doing this about 8 months ago.

I haven't questioned the need for the camera since! :)

[hherbzilla]

Originally posted by Rosco339
...Now, whenever I have an item without an individual tag, I immediately take a close-up picture of the inventory tag on the shelf. When I get to the register, I have the pic handy and the cashier has ALL of the relevant information to ring up the sale. I haven't had to wait for a price check again since I started doing this about 8 months ago.

I haven't questioned the need for the camera since! :) What a great idea! I've had the problem many times myself.

I use the camera all of the time. There are so many things that occur on a daily basis where I'd like to capture the moment. I always have my Clie handy, so it's easy to snap a picture or two. Before getting my NX70V, I almost never had a digital camera ready unless I was planning ahead of time to take pictures.

[Telhai]

Actually just found out the new Clie has 1.3 Meg Pixel camera...I guess with that resolution it might be handy for taking pictures of more than just shopping shelves!

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=nNCVPgAIgVWVHj7nGk-fNU8ZcXndLoxU9N4=?ProductID=cZIKC0%2eNZakAAAD1z6QpDdUc

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by zipslack
Keeping in mind that I DO NOT have an NX unit (why does everybody assume that everybody else is dumb enough to spend that much money on a gadget that can fall out of your pocket?) OK, so I just offended almost everybody that uses this board.....so what?&nbsp;

I own an nx and I can afford to replace.

I don't think you offended any of us, but you did make yourself look silly.

I always consider the source.

Using your same logic, we should all be driving yugos or used pintos in case we get into an accident.

The analogies could go on. :)

I still say to each his own.

After all, the owner of&nbsp;a 10-20 dollar organizers (they do what they're intended to do and some of them&nbsp;quite well) may think you're a total idiot for spending anything more!

And someone wth a pencil and paper may...

Need I go on? :)

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[stronggeek]

Oh and the same thing happened to me with "Magic Text"(I too had no ideal that the company history).


And some games as well, but for the most part games are bound to grow old and boring.

Some of them we can put away and replay at another time...if future units will permit. :)

[Wintermute8]

Originally posted by Sacharissa
Here's one nobody's mentioned yet: Ultrasoft Money. I tried it for the 30-day trial period, and while the interface was nowhere NEAR as elegant or intuitive as Splash Money, the fact that I could simply enter transactions and then seamlessly hotsync with Microsoft Money made it worth the price to me.

So I finally purchased and registered the app, and wouldn't you know it - the very next day, it started dropping transactions from my Clie, and screwing up the totals! Unless I can figure out what's going on, it looks like it's back to Splash Money for me, $34.95 the poorer... :(

Don't be so quick! I use ultrasoft money myself. I had some syncing problems a while ago (I messed up my user data for the clie and had to re-install, it was a mess) and it wouldn't get things correct until I went to custom hotsync, and opened the options for ultrasoft money. They have a lot of settings in there, but the one that did the trick for me was "Delete temp cache" or transfer data file or something like that. I can't remember the exact wording.

[skorpiankh]

Silverscreen Sux. OS5 launcher does more and looks better.

[rob_squared]

Originally posted by zipslack
ZL - very nice effort, I'll check with them again after a few more releases. Main problem - too cluttered and "cartoonish". YiShow still works faster, has a cleaner interface, and is less confusing (with better file-manager integration)

Perhaps you should have leanred how to use the settings. I thought the icons were huge and clunkey until I realized that unchecking "zoom icon" makes them nice and small, YiShow. And zlauncher's file manager is almost equal to that of filez and mcfile.

[Sonnybobiche]

There was some game by some Chris somethingorother I think. In any case, it was one of the two or three snowboarding games ever made for the palm. It was also the only palm application I ever registered, thinking that maybe it would be something like 1080 snowboarding on the nintendo 64. Heh... It said in the registered version you could do all sorts of 'tricks.' Heh... It said 'many new courses added and more on the way.' Heh...
Not once did this guy ever update the thing again. Instead he came out with some monkey game which he also never updated and then promptly disappeared from the planet. The game is also gone from Palmgear, surprise surprise. Tricks? No tricks. All you do is jump one way or the other. CRAP.

[Edlin]

piscel viewer... Ok, didnt really pay for it but its just so much eye candy compared and cant do what its meant to (ie read large files easily).

Monoply AI let the game down big time.

[SuperSaiyan]

piscel viewer... Ok, didnt really pay for it but its just so much eye candy compared and cant do what its meant to (ie read large files easily).

I own both Acidimage and Piscel Viewer. I'd like to combine the two into one great image viewer. AI needs a face lift as the UI is butt-ugly. Most of the time I use Piscel Viewer.

[fssia]

For me, it's mostly the games cuz most of us get excited when a new game comes out or cross our path. Eventually we may find some that didn't live up to our expectations or as it's advertised. :(

For me iSilo belongs here. I bought it but I don't even use it at all cuz it takes up a lot of RAM when running and the pdb files are huge too! Not that it doesn't do what it's meant to but it just doesn't appeal to me. I much prefer Plucker which is free & simple. :D

Kinoma is another. But luckily I didn't purchase Kinoma Producer. Even the teasers I d/l from Sony site doesn't play sound properly, what's the point?! :mad:

eReader is another one. Glad I didn't buy the Pro version.

[Edlin]

I own both Acidimage and Piscel Viewer. I'd like to combine the two into one great image viewer. AI needs a face lift as the UI is butt-ugly. Most of the time I use Piscel Viewer.
I must admit that I havent tried pissy viewer as an image viewer... just looked then, and it does do well for it... espically in terms of levels of zooming in and out. Fun throwing the image around with the stylus :D Is there a way to move from one pic to the next in folder (besides the obivous having to go back and select the next pick)?
I use Gishow/jpegshow (http://www.geocities.jp/g_isihara/) atm which is freeware & kinda doubt piscel will offer me more.

[kp*]

AcidImage was great when it came out. The UI is kind of garish, but it was just about the only app with a color/hi-res UI at the time, and at least I thought it was cool. During the time this thread has been in hibernation, I've discovered that Resco has since overtaken AI in the features department, and I purchased it and now use it instead. Its AI is pretty, too, though a little more "normal." Also a little more Windows than Aqua, which is a matter of taste that I don't necessarily prefer.

[ClieKun]

iSilo! hell yes! its was bad in my eyes. Z launcher was the biggest.

[doctorow]

For me iSilo belongs here. I bought it but I don't even use it at all cuz it takes up a lot of RAM when running and the pdb files are huge too! Not that it doesn't do what it's meant to but it just doesn't appeal to me. I much prefer Plucker which is free & simple. :D
fssia, Plucker is free, and iSilo isn't. But I don't see how iSilo takes more ram than Plucker.

[clie_wannabe]

IMHO:

- MessagEase (too complicated and cumbersome)


there may be a learning curve, but once you get up to speed, you stay up to speed...

after two months of using ME, i could basically "blind" touch already on my NX80V...

[clie_wannabe]

Don't be so quick! I use ultrasoft money myself. I had some syncing problems a while ago (I messed up my user data for the clie and had to re-install, it was a mess) and it wouldn't get things correct until I went to custom hotsync, and opened the options for ultrasoft money. They have a lot of settings in there, but the one that did the trick for me was "Delete temp cache" or transfer data file or something like that. I can't remember the exact wording.

i never had a problem with Ultrasoft money...

as the previous poster said, try to at least "clean-up" the logs regularly - what i mean by logs are the history records keeping track of changes between MS Money, and the Clie...

as for totals going off - yes, i have that... about a few yen off... but it goes off and comes back to normal after a few days. must be a bug in there...

all i can say is that it is one of the most used apps (second to Agendus) on my clie (however im presently using a PPC Loox)

[fssia]

Hello ClieKun, long time no hear. How are you? What PDA u using now?

doctorow, I mean the actual iSilo (502 kb) app takes up more RAM space than Plucker (261 Kb). Sorry, I must have misphrased it the other day.

Precisely, I mean when I pay for an app, I expect it to perform/ be better than the freewares. And iSilo isn't really doing that when compare to Plucker.